Do we need books?

Do we need books?

An intergenerational showdown for fans of the SWF Great Debate

Presented by Sydney Writers' Festival

Are you ready to burst your filter bubble? To hit pause on righteous anger? To answer the ultimate literary question, once and for all: do we really need books?

Hosted by Academy and Emmy Award–winning film and TV producer Emile Sherman and business leader and former human rights activist Lloyd Vogelman, Principle of Charity is a podcast which injects curiosity and generosity back into difficult conversations, bringing together two expert guests with opposing views on big social issues.

Battle it out with philosopher A.C. Grayling and art historian and content creator Mary McGillivray in this special live recording, which will put Boomers and Gen Z head-to-head. Books are dead! Long live books!


A. C. Grayling - International
A. C. Grayling CBE MA DPhil is the Principal of Northeastern University London and its Professor of Philosophy. He is a Supernumerary Fellow of St Anne's College, Oxford. He is the author of over thirty books of philosophy, biography, history of ideas and essays. He was a columnist for The Guardian, The Times and Prospect Magazine. He has twice been a judge for The Booker Prize, in 2014 serving as the Chair of the judging panel. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature, a Vice President of Humanists UK, Patron of the Defence Humanists, Honorary Associate of the Secular Society and a Patron of Dignity in Dying.

Mary McGillivray - Australian
Mary McGillivray is a content creator making visual culture analysis accessible for the next generation. She holds a Masters degree in History of Art and Architecture from The University of Cambridge and is currently a PhD candidate at The University of Melbourne. Mary has worked with art galleries and cultural institutions across Australia, the UK and Europe to bring their collections to a massive online audience of highly engaged young viewers and she also appears on ABC Arts.

Emile Sherman - Australian
Academy Award and Emmy Award–winning film and television producer Emile Sherman co-founded See-Saw Films in 2008. Based in Sydney and London, See-Saw Films has worked with many of the world's leading filmmakers and actors. Productions include The King's Speech, Lion, Top of the Lake, Slow Horses, Heartstopper and The Power of the Dog. He's a former director of Sydney Writers' Festival and The Ethic's Centre. He co-hosts podcast Principle of Charity with Lloyd Vogelman.

Lloyd Vogelman - Australian
Dr Lloyd Vogelman is the founder and Director of the Corteks Company, a global boutique consultancy. He works with CEOs and senior executives of some of the world's largest companies in Australia and globally. Lloyd qualified as a clinical psychologist and received his doctorate from the University of London, focusing on the dynamics of group extremism. He has been a visiting scholar at Harvard University and visiting Professor at De Paul University in Chicago, as well as a guest speaker at numerous conferences throughout the world. In South Africa, Lloyd was a member of the regional executive of the UDF which was a non-racial front of approximately 600 Anti-Apartheid organisations and banned by the Apartheid government. He was also the founder and director of the Centre for the Study of Violence and Reconciliation. The Centre established one of the largest trauma centres for victims of Apartheid violence. Lloyd describes himself as a recovering extremist, who’s passionate about our potential to change our minds.

Presented by Sydney Writers' Festival at Carriageworks


  • 24 May - 24 May, 24
  • Regular price $40.00 $18.00 Playwave Price

  • All Ages
  • Carriageworks
    245 Wilson St
    Eveleigh NSW 2015

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